{"id":7913,"date":"2026-02-05T14:27:24","date_gmt":"2026-02-05T17:27:24","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/politiciando.com.br\/?p=7913"},"modified":"2026-02-05T14:27:25","modified_gmt":"2026-02-05T17:27:25","slug":"lula-relata-conversa-com-filho-sobre-fraude-no-inss-se-voce-tiver-alguma-coisa-vai-pagar","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/politiciando.com.br\/?p=7913","title":{"rendered":"Lula relata conversa com filho sobre fraude no INSS: &#8216;Se voc\u00ea tiver alguma coisa, vai pagar&#8217;"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><em>Quer se manter informado, ter acesso a mais de 60 colunistas e reportagens exclusivas?<a href=\"https:\/\/assine.estadao.com.br\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Assine o Estad\u00e3o aqui!<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>BRAS\u00cdLIA \u2013 O presidente\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.estadao.com.br\/tudo-sobre\/lula-luiz-inacio-lula-da-silva\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><strong>Luiz In\u00e1cio Lula da Silva<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0(PT) afirmou nesta quinta-feira, 5, que conversou com seu filho\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.estadao.com.br\/tudo-sobre\/fabio-luis-lula-da-silva\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><strong>F\u00e1bio Lu\u00eds Lula da Silva<\/strong><\/a>, conhecido como Lulinha, sobre a possibilidade de ele estar envolvido com\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.estadao.com.br\/politica\/blog-do-fausto-macedo\/careca-do-inss-pediu-pagamento-de-r-300-mil-para-amiga-de-filho-de-lula-e-citou-o-filho-do-rapaz\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><strong>irregularidades no caso de descontos ilegais de aposentadorias do INSS<\/strong><\/a>. Lula refor\u00e7ou que a orienta\u00e7\u00e3o do governo no caso \u00e9 que \u201cinvestigue o que tiver que investigar\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/audience-network\/?reporterProfileUrn=urn:li:fs_miniProfile:AFcAABBuY1kBKjO_WhN-ZDvGS7ftO2Wx2KYZKPE&amp;entityUrn=urn:li:sponsoredCreative:1165296423&amp;contentSource=ADS_LAN\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cQuando saiu o nome do meu filho, eu chamei meu filho aqui. Falo isso com todo mundo. Olhei no olho dele e falei: \u2018S\u00f3 voc\u00ea sabe a verdade, se voc\u00ea tiver alguma coisa, vai pagar o pre\u00e7o de ter alguma coisa, se n\u00e3o tiver, se defenda\u2019. Eu trato as coisas com muita seriedade\u201d, disse o presidente.<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net\/tenant\/amp\/entityid\/AA1VKnC7.img?w=710&amp;h=473&amp;m=6&amp;x=319&amp;y=101&amp;s=119&amp;d=119\" alt=\"Lula diz que n\u00e3o haver\u00e1 qualquer tipo de prote\u00e7\u00e3o especial ao seu filho ou a qualquer outra pessoa nas investiga\u00e7\u00f5es sobre os descontos indevidos em aposentadorias Foto: Wilton Junior\/Estad\u00e3o\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Lula diz que n\u00e3o haver\u00e1 qualquer tipo de prote\u00e7\u00e3o especial ao seu filho ou a qualquer outra pessoa nas investiga\u00e7\u00f5es sobre os descontos indevidos em aposentadorias Foto: Wilton Junior\/Estad\u00e3o<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>As declara\u00e7\u00f5es ocorreram em entrevista ao&nbsp;<em>UOL News<\/em>. Lulinha n\u00e3o \u00e9 formalmente investigado no caso at\u00e9 o momento, mas seu nome surgiu ao longo das apura\u00e7\u00f5es por poss\u00edvel liga\u00e7\u00e3o com o lobista&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.estadao.com.br\/tudo-sobre\/careca-do-inss-antonio-carlos-camilo-antunes\/\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>Ant\u00f4nio Carlos Camilo Antunes<\/strong><\/a>, conhecido como Careca do INSS.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Como revelou o\u00a0<strong>Estad\u00e3o<\/strong>,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.estadao.com.br\/politica\/pf-diz-que-vai-apurar-se-filho-de-lula-foi-socio-oculto-do-careca-do-inss-em-negocios-no-governo\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><strong>a Pol\u00edcia Federal informou ao Supremo Tribunal Federal que vai investigar essas men\u00e7\u00f5es para apurar se Lulinha seria \u201cs\u00f3cio oculto\u201d do Careca<\/strong><\/a>, apontado como l\u00edder do esquema criminoso que desviou valores bilion\u00e1rios das aposentadorias. Procurada, a defesa de Lulinha disse que ele nunca teve rela\u00e7\u00e3o com o INSS e classificou as men\u00e7\u00f5es como \u201cila\u00e7\u00f5es\u201d.<a href=\"https:\/\/account.microsoft.com\/privacy\/ad-settings\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ao ser questionado sobre o caso de descontos dos aposentados, Lula fez quest\u00e3o de refor\u00e7ar o discurso de que n\u00e3o haver\u00e1 qualquer tipo de prote\u00e7\u00e3o especial ao seu filho ou a qualquer outra pessoa. Tentou atrelar o caso ao governo do ex-presidente&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.estadao.com.br\/tudo-sobre\/jair-bolsonaro\/\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>Jair Bolsonaro<\/strong><\/a>, quando j\u00e1 havia um aumento desse tipo de descontos, apesar de o maior crescimento nos desvios ter acontecido durante o seu governo.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cA investiga\u00e7\u00e3o do INSS acontece porque o governo descobriu atrav\u00e9s da AGU, CGU e PF que tinha sido montada uma quadrilha no governo Bolsonaro. Comecei a dizer para o pessoal que seria a primeira vez na hist\u00f3ria que o governo ia pedir uma CPI (Comiss\u00e3o Parlamentar de Inqu\u00e9rito)\u201d, afirmou. 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